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Well, I've taken a small hiatus from the boards. It has been well spent, I assure you. Once you get past the posts about homophobia, strip away the flames from trolls just out to spoil a good time and set aside for a moment the off-topic fun posts and the incredibly worthy yet tangential threads that touch on philosophical and spiritual issues, you're left with the overriding question: Are these films the best of all time?
The question has up until now seemed a reasonably safe one to ask, if a contentious one. We can go back and forth and on and on about plot holes and special effects and love interests and allegory and applicability and character development and any of a thousand other elements. But when all the shouting is over we all have that old "but it's all subjective in the end" gambit.
Well, I wasn't satisfied. I and my friends in the Brotherhood of Legally Armed Nepotists Determined to Impose Solidarity through Heroic Mathematics Even at NightTime (BLANDISHMENT) have been working for years on a method of using mathematical analysis to come up with a scientific way of objectifying movie quality. With the rise of the debates surrounding the LOTR films we've spurred our efforts to greater heights. Our search for the complete formula has led BLANDISHMENT beyond the realms of normal Euclidean geometry and calculus into higher mathematics, astrophysics and even metaphysics. But finally, we've succeeded. And we now know, definitively, beyond any shadow of a doubt, what is the best movie of all time.
The Two Towers is not it. It's number three.
The Fellowship of the Ring is not it. It's number eight.
But how did we come up with such a formula? Well, you have to start with the simple. We decided there must be a factor for each of the major genres, with each genre earning a score for how well a given film represented it. A film's scores in each genre would sum up to a final tally.
To drill down on each genre we first had to gain access to detailed data on critical and audience reaction. Combing the user reviews here on IMDb was only a start. We searched the archives of every major newspaper in the US and Europe (except Belgium), all national and local news and entertainment programs and other tangential media where there was a chance that someone might have said something about a film, and first- second- and third-person accounts of every film-related conversation we could lay our hands on; every recorded mention then had to be cross-referenced with its likely impact plus weighted to account for the perceived risk of revealing an opinion (Ellen Janikowski's casual mention to fellow carpool passenger Danny Moritz in 1979 that Jaws II was "totally awesome" didn't affect that film's score much; Dan Dierdorf's revelation during a highly-rated 1986 telecast of Monday Night Football that his daughters enjoyed watching Teen Wolf pushed that Michael J. Fox vehicle up from 67,895th place all the way up to no. 63,452).
We then applied Jackson's Fifth Postulate to the data to objectify the word choice into a numerical value. We chose to use the hyperbolic scale rather than the linear, which I'm sure you'll agree has yielded better analytical results in other studies. A paradigmatic shift from a positive to a negative coupling of the correlated data points yielded results that fit well in four-dimensional phase space, and so we continued. We then incorporated data from box office results, with corrections added for time period, the popularity of movies in general against other forms of entertainment, economic climate and overall emotional condition as recorded by the World Health Organization's "happy index" (data available only back to 1937 but extrapolated back to 1902). It was then a simple matter to superimpose our Box Office Relevancy Quotient onto each of the sample opinions with the correct application Hypoluxo's Theory of Interdeterminancy.
Having massaged the data on the "opinion" axis we then had to cross-reference with the "people" axis, breaking each individual in our representative sample down into their component vectors for each genre. This was a real stumbling block for some time, not due to the lack of a procedure to break down the numbers but due to a question of reliable data. By a large majority, BLANDISHMENT decided to do the breakdown using Pinsky's Second Corollary to Henckman's Third Law, but we found two distinct indices of the measurements of the gravitational field in theaters on a region-by-region basis. I must admit this had us stumped for quite some time, because examining the two data sources through a mass spectrometer revealed that they didn't even share the same divergent structure! You can imagine what a shocker that was!
Since all of our efforts in this delicate study hung in the balance, we decided to increase the rigor of our selection process by going best 17 of 33; the Waxman Index of Inter-Theatrical Graviton Influence won out when its BLANDISHMENT representative chose paper, which covered rock for a final score of 17-12. I'm sure you'd all agree that the decision should have been obvious at the time, but sometimes you can get just too close to the mathematics to see clearly.
At this point, I know what you're thinking. "But lkalliance," you're saying to yourself, "don't you f*ck-ups at BLANDISHMENT know that you can't use Hypoluxo's Theory of Interdeterminancy in this case, since I'm assuming you normalized the brainwave data using the industry-standard Fisher Base-12 Conversion Protocol? Verplank's Second Exception would postulate that you'd get significant flaws in your transfer!" Ah, friends, we knew that all too well. And there were some within our brotherhood that thought that an insurmountable obstacle.
But we were lucky there. Leafing through Bill Watterson's A Calvin and Hobbes Treasure, vol. II one of our members found a reference to a February, 1968 article in Totally Dense Science magazine, where it was revealed that Verplank used the Gregorian calendar as the basis for his research, while Fisher's protocol was calculated with the Caesarian calendar! The resulting parabolic blue-shift of the redundancy curve smoothed out the enigmatic phenomena, and it was smooth sailing from there!
I won't bore you with more nit-picky details. By now I'm sure you've filled in the gaps yourself and can see how it all inexorably comes together. We added all the genre scores together into what we call the BLANDISHMENT SCORE, or BS. And with the thousands of films we needed to rate, let me tell you this whole project in the end added up to a lot of BS. But when you see the results I think you'll be impressed with the magnitude of what our scrappy little band has accomplished.
I present to you BLANDISHMENT's Objectively Indisputable All-Time Ten Best Movies:
10. The Man who Came to Dinner
9. Godzilla vs. Mothra
8. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
7. North by Northwest
6. Adam's Rib
5. Godfather III
4. Dude, Where's my Car?
3. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
2. Duck Soup
1. Home Alone 2
"How do you celebrate your holy week?"
"Wedgies, mostly."
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Dimsah
(Mon Jan 20 23:40:13)
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ROTFLMAO!!!!
How in the hell do you come up with this stuff?
I'm in a place where I don't know where I am!
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It takes a couple of days with the satellite dish out of order, let me tell you.
"How do you celebrate your holy week?"
"Wedgies, mostly."
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Dimsah
(Mon Jan 20 23:47:21)
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That's definitely Onion front page material.
I'm in a place where I don't know where I am!
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Stop! You're making me blush!
"How do you celebrate your holy week?"
"Wedgies, mostly."
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"With great power comes great responsibility"
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that is just way too funny. I like it :D
Bela Lugosi's dead
Undead undead undead
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THANK YOU, LK !!! I have some real problems with that iMDB algorithm. This, on the other hand is, I think, uncontestable. And, if I may say so, much more easily understood by us Simple Folk.
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This tagline for sale: make offer.
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We aim to please. 
Best tagline I've seen in a long time, btw.
"How do you celebrate your holy week?"
"Wedgies, mostly."
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Well, 'Dude, Where's My Car' was actually a lot better than I thought it'd be, and I enjoyed it a lot, but the fourth best movie of all time... That I didn't know.
Thanks for the post,
Sean
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I'm so bummed that the Red Menace didn't make the list!! Anyone who saw THAT knows what I'm talking about! :D
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LMAO!
You have demonstrated once again that one can use "science," "mathematics," "logic" and "reason" to arrive at conclusions that are completely off-the-wall! God help us when this kind of thinking takes the place of common sense (or as the saying goes: "The problem with common sense is that it's not so common anymore  ).
LOGICIAN: There are ways of telling whether she is a witch!
VILLAGER #1: Are there? What are they? Tell us!
LOGICIAN: Tell me, what do you do with witches?
VILLAGERS: Burn them!
LOGICIAN: And what do we burn apart from witches?
VILLAGER #1: More witches!
VILLAGER #2: Wood!
LOGIVIAN: So, why do witches burn?
(long pause)
VILLAGER #2: 'Cause..... they're made of..... wood?
LOGICIAN: Good!
"The only way to have a happy ending is not to tell the rest of the story." -ORSON WELLES
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(Tue Jan 21 01:55:31)
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I thought that scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail made perfect sense when compared to how they actually determined whether someone was a witch or not. In other words, neither one made any sense, whatsoever.
Still, I wonder if we shall ever be put into songs or tales. (Samwise)
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 lkalliance, that was genius, sheer genius. How are we ever going to thank you and BLANDISHMENT enough for finally coming up with something so solid and indesputable?
We're not worthy, we're not worthy!
Though technical jargon isn't always necessary to prove a point. damian demonstrates that rather nicely in his little excerpt from the Holy Grail, but damian, I believe that you chopped the logical arguement in half, you've only shown the beginning of the debate, you didn't see it into fruition (is that a word? I think it should be). If you recall, the rest of the debate goes as follows:
VILLAGER #2: B--... 'cause they're made of wood...?
BEDEMIR: Good!
BEDEMIR: So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood?
VILLAGER #1: Build a bridge out of her.
BEDEMIR: Aah, but can you not also build bridges out of stone?
VILLAGER #2: Oh, yeah.
BEDEMIR: Does wood sink in water?
VILLAGER #1: No, no.
VILLAGER #2: It floats! It floats!
VILLAGER #1: Throw her into the pond!
CROWD: The pond!
BEDEMIR: What also floats in water?
VILLAGER #1: Bread!
VILLAGER #2: Apples!
VILLAGER #3: Very small rocks!
VILLAGER #1: Cider!
VILLAGER #2: Great gravy!
VILLAGER #1: Cherries!
VILLAGER #2: Mud!
VILLAGER #3: Churches -- churches!
VILLAGER #2: Lead -- lead!
ARTHUR: A duck.
With that riveting conclusion the only option was to weigh the witch against a duck to see if she weighed the same and was thus made out of wood and actually was a witch, which of course she was.
Now how can you argue against that!?
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(Tue Jan 21 02:39:46)
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I do own it and in addition to having excerpts of dialogue from the movie it also contains a few original bits from the Monty Python gang. Immediately following the "witch-burning" scene there is a little speech that goes something like this.....
JOHN CLEESE (speaking in a very stiff, mechanical, nasaly, and snobby-sounding voice): "Good evening. The last scene was very interesting from the point of view of a logician, like myself, because it contained a number of logical fallacies that are similar in nature to the kind of mistaken conclusions so often committed by my wife. For example, the proposition that "all wood burns" leads the scientific-minded Bedemir to conclude "all that burns is wood." This is, of course, complete bulls**t. Likewise, when I make the statement that "Alva Coogan is a woman" and that "all women are humans" my wife will conclude NOT that "Alva Coogan is a human" but that "I do not love her anymore." This, of course, makes me very IRRITATED, because it is not logical. For instance, when I come home from work, I expect that my supper be ready due to the fact that after a hard day of work I am prepared to eat it. But, naturally, my wife has not prepared it because she has her own fallaciuous ideas about logic and its applications. "Where is my supper?" I will inquire. "It is not ready, because I have been busy screwing the milkman." she will reply. This is of course somewhat of a logical response, but since the action of "screwing the milkman" is now completed, I would offer that the prepartion of supper should now commence. "Well, if you would give me one now and then I would not have to rely on the milkman for my orgasms." she will then explain. "I will give you one after my supper is ready" I then tell her in an increasingly infammatory voice. "God, you turn me on when you are angry. Come here, you big brute." she will then postulate. "F**k supper" I then conclude and we thrash around on the kitchen floor breathing, sweating and locked in a passionate love-making embrace. After this is all over I then request that my supper be prepared. This is, of course, very logical! Thank you!"
P.S. In my original post, I didn't want to go on and list the WHOLE dialogue because I thought that the first few lines would be enough to make my point.
"The only way to have a happy ending is not to tell the rest of the story." -ORSON WELLES
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I can't believe he really says all that!
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"The only way to have a happy ending is not to tell the rest of the story." -ORSON WELLES
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Milk-snortingly funny.
Have you read Winter's Tale by Mark Helprin? There's a chapter called Lake of the Coheeries with one passage that this reminded me of.
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I haven't, adalheidis. What's the skinny on the book?
"How do you celebrate your holy week?"
"Wedgies, mostly."
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Shakra
(Tue Jan 21 01:53:38)
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to see if this made any better sense. You'll be happy to know that the answer is...absolutely not! BTW, the mere mention of Home Alone anything causes me to break out in hives for two weeks. Thanks, guy!
Still, I wonder if we shall ever be put into songs or tales. (Samwise)
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"The only way to have a happy ending is not to tell the rest of the story." -ORSON WELLES
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Hmmmm...then why don't you just have another glass of wine? Though you shouldn't drink if you're home alone. Or get some hard liquor and take that home. Alone of alcoholic beverages, gin can help hives.
"How do you celebrate your holy week?"
"Wedgies, mostly."
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(Tue Jan 21 11:22:46)
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Now I'm sober and I don't think that made any more sense. Are you hitting the bottle early?
Still, I wonder if we shall ever be put into songs or tales. (Samwise)
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Well, lk, you've tried hard, but I must take exception on two points:
1) How am I supposed to do any work with all these tears of laughter rolling out my eyes? I can barely see as I type!! Not to mention the high risk of personal injury as I fell on the floor, lungs clawing for breath, in fits of laughter. I have no doubt that others reading this post will undergo similar experiences. Bordering on irresponsible, I think. Remember - with great wit comes great responsibility.
2) Though I realise you could be unaware of it, there may be a conspiracy afoot at BLANDISHMENT which threatens the credibility of your results. I have followed your model as closely as possible, and it seems that the oft-overlooked James Cameron classic, Piranha II: The Spawning, should have tied for tenth spot! On what basis was it omitted? I would hate to see all that valuable work being undermined by someone's hidden agenda. Further investigation is, I think, called for.
I am glad you are here with me. Here at the end of all things, Sam.
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1) How am I supposed to do any work with all these tears of laughter rolling out my eyes? I can barely see as I type!! Not to mention the high risk of personal injury as I fell on the floor, lungs clawing for breath, in fits of laughter. I have no doubt that others reading this post will undergo similar experiences. Bordering on irresponsible, I think. Remember - with great wit comes great responsibility.
Ah, but with great liquor and great fatigue come great irresponsibility, and according to Norm's Inversion Theorem the two cancel each other out.
2) Though I realise you could be unaware of it, there may be a conspiracy afoot at BLANDISHMENT which threatens the credibility of your results. I have followed your model as closely as possible, and it seems that the oft-overlooked James Cameron classic, Piranha II: The Spawning, should have tied for tenth spot! On what basis was it omitted? I would hate to see all that valuable work being undermined by someone's hidden agenda. Further investigation is, I think, called for.
Pirhana II did in fact rank highly. I think it ended up at #56. It would certainly have made the Top Ten except for the fact that our research uncovered a key discrepancy in the data: apparanently, according to a Miss Susan Smith of Torrance, CA, in a cocktail party anecdote in 1993, her best friend Lila Mortonson's description of the film as "totally rad" when she exited the theater was in fact not representative of her true feelings for the film. She was just hoping for another date with Michael Gavin, who chose the entertainment for the evening.
"How do you celebrate your holy week?"
"Wedgies, mostly."
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I bow humbly to your superior knowledge and exhaustive research, my faith restored. Just as well amateurs like myself are not in charge...
I am glad you are here with me. Here at the end of all things, Sam.
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Another classic my good man
And right then I knew, like you know about a good melon.
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(Tue Jan 21 06:26:39)
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Hahahah, I was honestly trying to take you seriously for the longest while, while reading your post - and then it occured to me that I wasn't supposed to take it seriously.
Splendidly written, and a good laugh =)
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"That old saying, how you always hurt the one you love,
well, it works both ways."
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Wait wait wait wait wait wait...people aren't taking it seriously!? Hmmmmm...perhaps I needed more jargon. Jargon to the operating room!
"How do you celebrate your holy week?"
"Wedgies, mostly."
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You clearly have way too much free time.
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I used to. Now I charge $75 an hour.
"How do you celebrate your holy week?"
"Wedgies, mostly."
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Elkie ... I sure hope you also calculated the ambiant air temperature in Burbank, California, as well as the Corliolis Effect on the polar ice caps into your formula.
My calculations show the #1 film to actually be "The Poseidon Adventure," and this is mostly due to Shelly Winter's overall effect on the troposphere.
You should never underestimate global atmospheric weather patterns when considering the quality of Hollywood films.
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Elkie ... I sure hope you also calculated the ambiant air temperature in Burbank, California, as well as the Corliolis Effect on the polar ice caps into your formula.
Hmmm...I'll have to recheck the localized variables in the Meteorological Conflagrency Modifier. Thanks, Val!
"How do you celebrate your holy week?"
"Wedgies, mostly."
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Thanks Elkie.
I am amazed, however, that you missed the local variance to Hypoluxo's Theory of Interdeterminancy here in Wales. Once the Professor Wanstroo's index of sexual arousal is applied in inverse correlation to the intensity of precipitation during the winter months, the net result is that a disproportionately large number of Welsh people spend an unhealthy amount of time watching cable television from November to February, which is widely available in Wales courtesy of our friends at NTL. The consequent increase in room temperature (an inevitable result of quantum mechanics when applied to gas central heating) caused by excess exposure to cable television would ordinarily impact upon the Fisher Base-12 Conversion Protocol, in that the subjective appeal of Shannons Tweed and Whirry would increase in natural correlation beyond the norm. Unfortunately, the curious sexual appetites of those living in Wales result in a further divergence from Jackson's Fifth Postulate, in that the room temperature exceeds safety levels during films featuring timid woolly ovine ruminants. You will find that this produces an increased weighting for the following five films:
1. Babe, the sheep pig
2. That other Babe film with sheep in it
3. That bit in Moonraker where Bond walks past a field with sheep in it
4. er ...
5. that's it.
Please check your figures in the relevant transmogrifier.
Dumble
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Thanks for the tip, Dumble! Perhaps we can leverage our proactive synergies in a win-win collaboration, assuming we don't bind our straw man with the constraints of the quality vector matrix.
"How do you celebrate your holy week?"
"Wedgies, mostly."
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Hmmm, good point, I'll pop that one in my mental microwave and de-frost it. Unfortunately, my own transmogrifier's batteries ran out last Friday, but I was thinking of remedying it with an inverse tacyon pulse.
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ROFLMAO!!!
..for a long time....
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I can't breathe!
*giggles* *snort*
*sigh*
Oh, god that was good, ALL of it!!!
Thanx guys!
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Now that I've finished my laughing fit, I have to point out the obvious: the original Mothra was vastly superior to the sequel Godzilla vs. Mothra.
The original Mothra was the very first monster movie THAT WAS ALSO A MUSICAL. Now a much copied genre [The Little Shop of Horrors is the best known], it was groundbreaking in every way.
Who can forget the incredible scene of the ersatz pacific islanders singing to the giant egg to spur it on to hatch?!?!?!
Other than that, I have no quarrel with your conclusions.
"I hope that the forgotten people will not have forgotten how to fight."
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The numbers don't lie, miko. To subjectively rearrange the list based on subjective criteria would be to miss the point -- to end this destructive debate once and for all!
"How do you celebrate your holy week?"
"Wedgies, mostly."
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lk,
I'm surprised at you. No, make that SICKENED! Your list is an blatant lie and you should be ashamed of yourself and all your family and their pets! I can't believe you are this ignorant (no offence). But on a list that calculates the greatest movies of all time since the beginning of filmdom, don't you know that NORTH BY NORTHWEST should be one slot above ADAMS RIB! Come on, this is pure lunacy!! Are you on crack?
Other than that, great list!
I too am a steward.
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@~~ Renee (whose old account was erased!) @~~
DUDE, WHERE'S MY CAR??????
(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Hi Elkie, I was wondering why "Smokey and the bandit" didn't make the list.....My brother said, "it's the greatest movie of all time."
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We didn't include that comment because your brother still owes me fifty bucks.
"How do you celebrate your holy week?"
"Wedgies, mostly."
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After such extensive research, data gathering, formulation and postulation, I hate to shoot down your theory. Unfortunately BLANDISHMENT has forgotten to factor in the Elvis Variable. I'm sure you know the application. I eagerly await the top ten list after this revision.
"Remember what John & Paul said"
"The Apostles?"
"No, The Beatles. All you need is love"
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Talk about a great setup. When I saw "Dude, where's my car", I almost spit out my popcorn. You really are good at this.
Where is a good Elf when you need one?
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(Thu Jan 23 18:38:02)
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The trilogy of movies won't make the top 10 movies in my mind as never once in any of the films did they provide any suspense or brilliant acting. They are solely based around, undoubtedly the best book ever written, but the transition from paper to film was really good...but not brilliant.
I like how it's on the big screen but I think it is more befitting of being in the top 100 instead.
The post is not meant to be antagonistic....just providing my opinion and maybe some balance to this board.
~~@@~~Life is too short~~@@~~
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HAHAHAHA!!! That was GREAT!!!
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HOLY CRAP!! Such geekiness is unfathomable to me! How is it possible that you can survive in our modern social system?? Dude, not only does your little mock theory suck, it sucks and blows big time! Time for you to pry yourself away from your PC and enjoy a little sunlight, and maybe consider getting a girlfriend(or gay lover, whatever floats your boat). This is total garbage, man. Total garbage.
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"The only way to have a happy ending is not to tell the rest of the story." -ORSON WELLES
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GoldenEye, don't be such a jerk.
"With great power comes great responsibility"
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Sorry, Trinity. I'm not some hate-monger or anything, but I just can't understand how or why people do stuff like that.
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Perhaps I can help you understand. Which "stuff's" origins are confusing you?
"How do you celebrate your holy week?"
"Wedgies, mostly."
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You really are in a little world of your own aren't you. S'funny how your reaction makes YOU look like the one with no social life.
Sad.
And right then I knew, like you know about a good melon.
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I'm sorry, but I wasn't the one who made that ridiculous theory post anyway. It caught my attention, to be sure, because it was so horribly sad. So how does my reaction make me look like the one with no social life?
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Social lives aside (who the hell cares). Some people like to write. lkalliance is one of those people. He is very good at it. Every other responder, on this board, except you and one guy (who didnt read it) enjoyed the post.
You say he has too much time on his hands. I disagree. I would much rather more people spent time writting than watching TV. I think it would be better for our society in general. Serious, houmorous, whatever just get the brain working.
Post something as funny or as interesting and maybe someone will take you seriously. It seems thats what you're looking for.
BTW lk, you had me going there for the first paragrapgh. I thought you'd solved the answer to life the universe and....everything.
What side are you on? Side? I am on nobody's side. Because nobody is on my side.
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Oh, I started to solve that once, and then someone told me that someone had already revealed the answer, which is of course 42. Damn that Douglas Adams!
Thanks for the kind words, felonious! Or perhaps Mr. Monk?
"How do you celebrate your holy week?"
"Wedgies, mostly."
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Of course, its not the answer thats important, its the question itself. No misters here, we're all freinds  .
fm for short.
I admire your writting are you a pro? I think ive seen you say no to that question before. Your stuff is better than alot of what you see out there, IMO.
What side are you on? Side? I am on nobody's side. Because nobody is on my side.
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Thanks yet again for the extremely generous words fm. I guess I'd be called semi-pro...I've been in PR and I've had opportunity to write plenty of copy. And I've held what I'll call a very unprestigious editorial post. But I wouldn't call it my primary job per se. Just something I enjoy doing from time to time. Again, thanks for the extremely flattering compliments! I hope I still have my crowbar here in the office; I'm going to need it to get my head back out through the door.
"How do you celebrate your holy week?"
"Wedgies, mostly."
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Bump
And right then I knew, like you know about a good melon.
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And right then I knew, like you know about a good melon.
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(Mon Feb 24 12:41:17)
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Found it for you.
Homer: God bless those pagans.
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Thanks Shakra!
He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom.
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(Mon Feb 24 12:53:12)
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you're welcome
Homer: God bless those pagans.
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I'll think to dri...think to th...drink to that!
Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow,
Bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow.
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How did I miss this the first time around? This is hilarious!
I'm a fan of Godzilla v. Mechagodzilla myself, though.
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I'm like a good haines t-shirt: tagless 
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bump poke or nm
 Honk if you love peace and quiet
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Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow,
Bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow.
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"There goes a lord who tamed a wild shieldmaiden of the North!"
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A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.
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This was one of the funniest and most creative threads we ever had, and I always forget who the guilty party is the started it.
"Boromir, quit trying to cut off Frodo's head ..." ~ Blatant favoritism most annoying.
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Bump pt 2
 if you hate Tom Hardy
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Congartulations Ilk. A fantastic peice of writing. I can see how the BS scale would be difficult to come to, but I have to say that I have been to Belgium, and I have to feel aggrieved on their behalf, as their views have been excluded from your study.
The Belgians produce many fine beers, some of which you might think unsavoury, take for example their "strawberry beer". I thought it sounded revolting, but having quoffed one, I found them all too more-ish, as my hangover the following morning will attest.
The Belgians are also very adept in their culinary skills. Their food is excellent. I especially recommend the mussells in cream and white wine sauce.
Inagine all of these achievements (not forgetting awe inspiring architecture) and you have to wonder at how the Belgians must feel when their national "gift" to the world, their most recognised symbol, is the statute of a little boy pissing (the maniken piss)!
If this is not a big enough shame, you leave them out of your BS mathematics! I hope you feel suitably chastised! I know they also love LOTR in Belgium too. They watch it quite often. That's when they aren't drinking strawberry beers and manicuring their elaborate moustaches...
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Bumping bumping...
Fernie
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